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		<title>The power of listening: Vancity steps up to the plate</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just got off the phone with Bill Corbett, Vancity&#8217;s Business Banking Director, Operations and Cash Management, who had commented on my last post and reached out to me, asking me to contact him to discuss any further suggestions or insights I had about my recent business banking experience and what Vancity could do differently in [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=nospinpr.com&#038;blog=766846&#038;post=135&#038;subd=ruthseeley&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got off the phone with Bill Corbett, Vancity&#8217;s Business Banking Director, Operations and Cash Management, who had commented on <a href="http://nospinpr.com/2008/11/29/the-social-media-disconnect-lets-not-change-everything/">my last post </a>and reached out to me, asking me to contact him to discuss any further suggestions or insights I had about my recent business banking experience and what Vancity could do differently in future.</p>
<p>Although the blogosphere <em>zeitgeist</em> is Opinions &#8216;R&#8217; Us (I sometimes think my next blog should be called &#8216;No Thought Left Unexpressed&#8217;), I will confess that I felt rather guilty when he told me that several folks at Vancity had seen my post over the weekend and that there had been some internal debate about it. I never meant to make you work on your days off, people, nor was I hoping to see (or hear) of any heads rolling. I&#8217;m merely a fan of <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/tudors/">The Tudors</a>, I don&#8217;t actually <em>think</em> I&#8217;m Henry VIII.<span id="more-135"></span></p>
<p>What was truly refreshing about the conversation was that it was not a <em>mea culpa</em> on Bill&#8217;s part, but rather that it was an exchange of information and viewpoints and an acknowledgement that despite our best efforts, we cannot always either provide &#8211; or receive &#8211; a customer service experience that works for both parties, no matter how hard we try.</p>
<p>I was very impressed by the openness of the conversation, by Bill&#8217;s active listening skills, and I was delighted to hear that the points I&#8217;d identified were of concern to the organization and that my blog post had brought them to the forefront of internal discussions, that Vancity is looking for solutions, and that their approach to finding those solutions includes seeking input not only from their existing customers but from potential customers as well.</p>
<p>In the same way that people who don&#8217;t vote don&#8217;t really have any right to criticize the government they were too apathetic to elect, when you&#8217;re asked, as a member of a community or stakeholder group, to engage in a dialogue, you need to take advantage of that opportunity. Things may well not change as a result of your expressing your opinion &#8211; you can&#8217;t please all of the people any of the time. But the promise of this new century is the incredible richness and variety of opportunities to listen widely, to learn continually, to be heard by an unprecedented number of people, and to act quickly to right wrongs (or smooth ruffled feathers).</p>
<p>Full marks to Vancity and to Bill Corbett. I&#8217;m not a member yet. But I&#8217;m not ruling it out in the future any more, after one unfortunate experience. In fact, I have a lot of confidence, based on the things Bill told me they were debating on how to make banking with Vancity easier, more accessible, and more targeted to its different customer groups, that the issues I raised in my previous post will be addressed.</p>
<p>So &#8211; thanks for listening. I feel validated as a person, a blogger and as an entrepreneur.</p>
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		<title>Weekend workshops</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 18:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bottles and cans, originally uploaded by The River Thief. Achieving a work/life balance that makes me happy is still an elusive thing, but I&#8217;m secretly quite thrilled that I think I have the formula. This may sound odd, but I&#8217;m still a little bitter about the fact that digital camera technology wasn&#8217;t as easy when [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=nospinpr.com&#038;blog=766846&#038;post=104&#038;subd=ruthseeley&#038;ref=&#038;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Achieving a work/life balance that makes me happy is still an elusive thing, but I&#8217;m secretly quite thrilled that I think I have the formula.</p>
<p>This may sound odd, but I&#8217;m still a little bitter about the fact that digital camera technology wasn&#8217;t as easy when I worked for <a href="http://www.brucepower.com">Bruce Power</a> as it was even a year later when I moved to BC in 2002.<span id="more-104"></span></p>
<p>I used to gaze out my home office window and watch the apple tree in the empty lot next to me through the seasons. It was beautiful in all four of them, whether weighted down with snow or adorned with thousands of the palest pink blossoms.</p>
<p>Kincardine is known for its beautiful sunsets (cynics would say that&#8217;s because of the hole in the ozone layer above Lake Huron resulting from industrial emissions from Michigan and other eastern US states). I didn&#8217;t manage to get a single photo of one of them, and in general, for a variety of reasons, I had neither the time nor the ability to really enjoy living in a small town or in a rural setting. Except for some wonderful expotitions to antique stores (another series of photo opps for which I would now kill), I wasn&#8217;t up for much other than exploring the countryside by car on the weekends. If I couldn&#8217;t get my act together to buy the elm chest of drawers with its bonnet and ribbon drawers and get it refinished, I could at least have photographed it.</p>
<p>And photographing it would have taken me into another zone, leaving me ready to reenter the fray once again on Monday morning. That&#8217;s why, after far too many years as a workaholic, I&#8217;ve decided to restrict my <a href="http://nospinpr.com/contact/">client hours </a>to 9AM to 5PM Monday to Thursday and 9AM to noon on Fridays.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s flexibility in there, of course, by pre-arrangement or if I&#8217;m providing crisis communications. But generally I intend to limit my client availability to those hours and my work week to about 30 hours. That means more Friday afternoons at Tinseltown, where I can sit in the dark and weep my way through <a href="http://www.passchendaelethemovie.com/">Passchendaele</a>. It also means more photography, more quilting, more reading, and more IRL polishing of my social skills.</p>
<p>All of which make me both a better person and a better consultant.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking of my weekends as weekend workshops these days. Sometimes the &#8216;to do&#8217; list will be completely abandoned and spontaneity will rule. That&#8217;ll mean I can catch up on a rather ambitious reading list. It&#8217;s a shocking long list. The only one I&#8217;m going to finish this weekend is Gabor Mate&#8217;s <em><a href="http://www.walrusmagazine.com/articles/2008.03-walrus-reads-book-review-gabor-mate/">In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts</a></em>, because it&#8217;s overdue at the library. <em><a href="http://www.forrester.com/Groundswell/book.html">Groundswell</a></em> will have to wait.</p>
<p>But at other times I&#8217;ll actually get out there. Today&#8217;s expedition is to the craft fair at Royal &amp; Third in New Westminster, <a href="http://www.newwestminster.worldweb.com/Events/ArtShowsExhibits/">Christmas Magic at the Manor</a>. I&#8217;ll let you know what I couldn&#8217;t live without.</p>
<p>Update: <a href="http://www.cachetcompany.com/">Cachet Co. Catering</a>&#8216;s lavender shortbread was to kill for, not just to die for. Now I&#8217;m addicted.<br /></p>
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